Freemasons

Black Brigade Lieutenant Joined: 21 Sep 2009 Posts: 110

Freemason ideology is very anti-Fascist I believe. However, we must note that Fascism must be socially pacifistic to succeed. Attacking anyone just makes it seem evil and strengthens liberal democracy, especially since the Freemasons are merely a harmless fraternity.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:59 am

zxcv wrote:

Freemason ideology is very anti-Fascist I believe. However, we must note that Fascism must be socially pacifistic to succeed. Attacking anyone just makes it seem evil and strengthens liberal democracy, especially since the Freemasons are merely a harmless fraternity.

Fascism/wholism will in practice inevitably work to undermine and replace other belief systems, especially if they're anti-fascist. In some cases it needn't do this immediately or violently. But it would do it.

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:35 pm

I know Freemasons believe in secularism. Depending on the type of Fascism you believe in this could be a problem, but that is not a problem as a rule.

But I do know that Freemasons, well I've talked to a Mason on a forum and he violated his oath a bit by telling me a few things over PM, so I'll keep it simple: They believe in the right-hand path as opposed to the left-hand path.

If you ask me that's a Fascist belief. The left-hand path is decadence and materialism and the right-hand path is standing against it...which we Fascists believe.

I'd get into specifics but I don't want to betray my friend.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:53 pm

I abhor clandestine organisations that are not subservient to the state. And even when they are, I still remain highly suspicious of them. I have no real problem with Masonry, it's with it's secrecy, and the amount of its members in positions of power. This makes me suspicious of them and their ultimate goals. But not enough to outlaw or peresecute them.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:55 pm

Sol_Invictus wrote:

I abhor clandestine organisations that are not subservient to the state. And even when they are, I still remain highly suspicious of them. I have no real problem with Masonry, it's with it's secrecy, and the amount of its members in positions of power. This makes me suspicious of them and their ultimate goals. But not enough to outlaw or peresecute them.

As far as I I'm concerned, if they can swear loyalty to the state (which they can, hell there was a Mason on Mussolini's Fascist council before Mussolini grew paranoid and kicked him out), and there is no die hard evidence they are undermining the state, then we shouldn't persecute them.

I mean if we persecute them, then they'll have a reason to oppose us. We shouldn't needlessly make enemies.

Regardless, as I've said many times, I can't speak for other countries, but a regime in the U.S.A. should be pro-Mason if anything as they are part of our heritage.

Now I wouldn't put it past the possibility (as much as I hate to veer into conspiracy theorist areas) that some higher-up Masons may be using their positions for less than wholesome activities, but I see that the same way as Catholic priests who molest children...there's nothing in the Catholic doctrine that endorses such, it's just people taking advantage of their position.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:39 am

And personally I agree with you. My being suspicious of masons would not exactly be exclusive, it covers all clandestine organisations. Government agencies included.