Speaking compition

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:24 am

A word of advice:

Whatever you do, do not use words like 'totalitarian' or 'dictator'. And don't mention the term Fascist until the very end. Words like these have so much bad connotation that once someone hears it they will completely shut down and then they won't listen to a word you say whether you have a good point or not.

Also, you are bound to have somebody bring up Nazis... Mad

please do a good job disasociating them from Fascists.

One more thing, a good point to hit on while talking about economics is the unemployment rate in Italy during the Fascist government reign.

Good Luck!

Chief Editor of AVE! Joined: 12 May 2009 Posts: 185

yes i have these things worked out i am almost done with my rough draft and i am liking it so far

Black Brigade Regular Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 41

Are you still needing one? I have been waiting for something like this. I've written several speeches that I've wanted someone to give, but I really don't have a forum to give them. But I would be honored if you could give them. I think they're quite good, but of course I'd think that. Just tell me if you want them. I formally give you permission to claim them as your own works, if you so choose.

Chief Editor of AVE! Joined: 12 May 2009 Posts: 185

i had to scrap my old ones i had one of the judges that is a personal friend look at what i said and told me that in the format it was in it made out movement too violent which i did not think it was Sad

ive started a new one but i dont like it as much so it would be nice to get inspiration from my comrades and credit those who have helped me

oh and apparently i need statistics to show that it has helped or currently is helping so im thinking i could use the Peron era in spain as an example seeing as it had the highest economic growth rate in europe of that time and the lowest crime rate too.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:40 pm

j71093h wrote:

so im thinking i could use the Peron era in spain as an example seeing as it had the highest economic growth rate in europe of that time and the lowest crime rate too.

Franco era.

Peron was in Argentina.

Chief Editor of AVE! Joined: 12 May 2009 Posts: 185

oh then i will correct the person i heard the spain part from and either way they are both good historical evidences of a working fascism

thank you for correcting me.

Black Brigade Colonel Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 485

Perón was a true Fascist; Franco was more like a Fascistic conservative.

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:31 pm

Indeed.

Black Brigade Regular Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 41

I would have given you some of my writings for you to use but it looks like you want more of a technical essay packed with economic facts. The stuff I wrote is more or less meant to pump up the crowd. Maybe you could use it in beginning of the speech or at the very end?

Chief Editor of AVE! Joined: 12 May 2009 Posts: 185

I plan on envoking energies whilst giving out facts or maybe i dont have to show how fascism works as much but more as how it doesnt

here is the intro to my new one:

Good day. I am here on the behalf of America, or should I say the future of America. I am here to stand against the individualistic system of democract, against the cut-throat ideal of capitalism, and against the oppressive and murderous ways of communism. For too long the Leviathans called Capitolism and Communism have held a strangle-hold on the nations of Earth. For too long this has been true, well no more!...

thats all I got so far...

Opinions? Criticizements? Helping words?

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:28 am

j71093h wrote:

I plan on envoking energies whilst giving out facts or maybe i dont have to show how fascism works as much but more as how it doesnt

I don't know if that's the right approach. People these days mainly want to hear what you stand for, so my advice on this is that I personally would choose for explaining fascism in a discrete way. If after that someone asks about your point of view, you can (in most cases) simply refer to your speech.

j71093h wrote:

here is the intro to my new one:

Good day. I am here on the behalf of America, or should I say the future of America. I am here to stand against the individualistic system of democract, against the cut-throat ideal of capitalism, and against the oppressive and murderous ways of communism. For too long the Leviathans called Capitolism and Communism have held a strangle-hold on the nations of Earth. For too long this has been true, well no more!...

thats all I got so far...

Opinions? Criticizements? Helping words?

That's a nice intro you've written, but it takes a powerful orrator to deliver an intro like that with succes. If you are, you should continue with these strong words, if not, I would advise you to lower the tone.

I'd also make sure to point out that capitalism is the lesser of two evils, since many people still gained their wealth by starting as an entrepreneur, but on the other hand I'd never make capitalism sound more appealing than corporatism.

Black Brigade Regular Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 41

I think your introduction was superb. In fact, it reminded me of my own works. Your writing style and use of language is quite similar to mine. I guess great minds really do think alike! Oh, by the way, has anyone mentioned Augusto Pinochet's government? That is considered by some to be a success. He did, after all, prevent a Marxist coup in Chile.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:10 am

Umm, he couped a socialist in Chile.

Also Pinochet was a capitalist dictator.

Therefore, he was not a Fascist.

Black Brigade Regular Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 41

According to himself, if he had not carried out the coup, communists would have couped the government themselves. And if you look at some of his policies, he could conceivably be called a fascist. He called himself a "free-market fascist". So yes, you are right that he really isn't a hardcore fascist, but he could be a "light" fascist.

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:03 pm

He may have been nationalist, and he may have been authoritarian.

But he was not Corporatist, he was Capitalist.