Disagreement with Mosley

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:58 am

I disagree with Mosley's globalist position concerning making Europe a nation. That's anti-nationalist and therefore anti-Fascist. What are your opinions on this particular issue?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:27 am

I very much agree.

A positive relationship between like-minded European nations is of course desirable, but this call for political unity, whether it comes from the left or the right, squelches all traces of individual European culture.

Similar to the EU, which must inevitably be done away with entirely.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:04 pm

I agree with your disagreement of a united Europe.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:51 pm

Auctoritas wrote:

Similar to the EU, which must inevitably be done away with entirely.

I absolutely agree.

Moderator Councillor Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 605

The EU is cool.

In a way its the continuation of Hitlers old dream - A strong and united Europe. Hitlers plan for a huge highway-system (the continuation of the German Autobahn) is also present in the EU. Hitler dreamed about volkswagons with stronger and better engines, speeding through Europe at 100 miles an hour on massive highways. Free flow of goods and money, and this whole new and glorious empire should be governed by the massive NSDAP party-parliament that Hitler planned to build in his new and impressive capital "Germania". (A massive dome was planned. It should be so tall that it would rain from the sealing I have heard)

That offcourse, didnt work out the way Hitler planned - but its intresting that other nazi-leaders such as Quisling in Norway created simular plans. Quislings plan was kind of naive, since it involved Hitler sharing power with other European leaders after a nazi-victory, but still intresting.

The highway - plan is almost complete, Europe is almost connected, the EU parliament is getting more powerfull - but resistance from small places like Norway and Irland is slowing the process down a bit. Since the EU parliament is based on all-European parties, fascists can run for election here as well, and try to get ideas accross.

Black Brigade Colonel Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 485

Fascisti wrote:

The EU is cool.

Thank you. Finally, someone I agree with.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:27 pm

Fascisti wrote:

The EU is cool.

In a way its the continuation of Hitlers old dream - A strong and united Europe. Hitlers plan for a huge highway-system (the continuation of the German Autobahn) is also present in the EU. Hitler dreamed about volkswagons with stronger and better engines, speeding through Europe at 100 miles an hour on massive highways. Free flow of goods and money, and this whole new and glorious empire should be governed by the massive NSDAP party-parliament that Hitler planned to build in his new and impressive capital "Germania". (A massive dome was planned. It should be so tall that it would rain from the sealing I have heard)

That offcourse, didnt work out the way Hitler planned - but its intresting that other nazi-leaders such as Quisling in Norway created simular plans. Quislings plan was kind of naive, since it involved Hitler sharing power with other European leaders after a nazi-victory, but still intresting.

The highway - plan is almost complete, Europe is almost connected, the EU parliament is getting more powerfull - but resistance from small places like Norway and Irland is slowing the process down a bit. Since the EU parliament is based on all-European parties, fascists can run for election here as well, and try to get ideas accross.

Hitler's dream was neither a united Europe nor a German Europe, but that of a German world. And Fascists can run in America as well. They won't get elected, because of our strong democratic and individualist traditions and two-party system, but we can run.

Black Brigade Lieutenant Joined: 23 Sep 2009 Posts: 115

We must do away with euros. They are systematically destroying Individual National Cultures.

Black Brigade Major Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 255

LittleFascie97 wrote:

We must do away with euros. They are systematically destroying Individual National Cultures.

The problem with those opposed to the EU is, to what extent to you support "Individual Nationalist Cultures"? Do you believe the French, Spanish, and Germans should each be autarkic nations, or do you follow to the logical conclusion and seperate Western Europe into it's primary component nations, allowing the Basque, Catalonians, Andulusians, Occitnanians, Arpitanians, Bretons, Walloons, Normans, Scots, Welsh, Cornwelsh, Flemish, Frisians, Sicilians, Sardinians, Corsicans, Napolitians, and so on and so forth ad infinitium to each be given their own nation? Simply put, the actual multitude of European nations could not function if one were to trully support their nationalism, neither through autarky or protectionism; a united Europe is likely the best solution, a federation with respect towards the many nations of the continent while forming a new common identity across it.

Black Brigade Lieutenant Joined: 23 Sep 2009 Posts: 115

Pragmatic wrote:

LittleFascie97 wrote:

We must do away with euros. They are systematically destroying Individual National Cultures.

The problem with those opposed to the EU is, to what extent to you support "Individual Nationalist Cultures"? Do you believe the French, Spanish, and Germans should each be autarkic nations, or do you follow to the logical conclusion and seperate Western Europe into it's primary component nations, allowing the Basque, Catalonians, Andulusians, Occitnanians, Arpitanians, Bretons, Walloons, Normans, Scots, Welsh, Cornwelsh, Flemish, Frisians, Sicilians, Sardinians, Corsicans, Napolitians, and so on and so forth ad infinitium to each be given their own nation? Simply put, the actual multitude of European nations could not function if one were to trully support their nationalism, neither through autarky or protectionism; a united Europe is likely the best solution, a federation with respect towards the many nations of the continent while forming a new common identity across the continent.

You have a point. I was quite unthinking in my statement.

Fascist Civillian Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 11

Mosley wants Europe as a nation, and he is a European nationalist. So he is not "anti-nationalist" and he is no "Anti-Fascist".

Black Brigade Lieutenant Joined: 21 Sep 2009 Posts: 110

I mostly hate the EU.

However, the EU can be "useful". The more collectivized it becomes, the weaker and more unstable, good for reactionaries.